#300 - Experimental

[Madmardigan]

I wouldn't have had the chance to use it as I was eliminated the next turn after the rule was put in place. As I say, I can accept some growing pains, but I still see this as encouraging gang-bangs where several kingdoms try to jump another kingdom early in hopes of getting them before they establish a sanctuary and taking all their pop centers in one turn. I cannot imagine a rule that is more likely to encourage gang-bangs, actually. At the very minimum, I would suggest that this sanctuary rule should NOT be a sole action for the king or if it absolutely HAS to be, let it come in the order que before #150.

With regard to elimination-  In game 300 it was previously explained in the thread that elimination was part of the playtest.

That does not apply to other games.

The thread above dates 3/20 to the official announcement of "Sanctuary". 

The player in question was eliminated on 3/16.  To apply for a sanctuary it would have been nice if the the new order announcement should have occurred on 3/10.  Possibly announced somewhere on the turn report for players that might have missed it on the forum.  

Not a huge issue to me as I was not impacted.  I just wanted to explain the timeline on behalf of players who are not as active on the forum.

I myself like the elimination and do not like sanctuary. All this does is give a kingdom that was defeated a chance to hang around and just be a pain in the butt for the Kingdom that eliminated it. They have no chance of winning but just want to get revenge at who beat them. If you are beaten then you are beaten! Plan ahead and you will not need sanctuary.

I see no reason to believe this encourages gang banging, diplomacy is major part of game, I am tired of hearing about this ganging up on someone when someone gets beaten. There is usually more to the story. If you keep changing rules every time someone complains there will never be and end to it.

I absolutely hate having a Kingdom get beaten but able to stay around and just be a nuisance. That's why we have a limit of 40 turns, if you cannot be taken out why have turn limit then? Just keep playing, no one can win...............just my opinion.

I liken the ability to continue to a war of resistance or guerrilla insurgency.  And actually, I would like to see this idea somehow implemented in future games.  Perhaps after holding a region for 10 or more turns, a kingdom gains a 'support of the people' bonus which can then be used to reclaim their lost pop centers.