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Thanksgiving Steel - 5518
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For Loren or anyone else:  With regards to a players starting town (and sometimes village) in your starting region, I always take it.  Similarly, I allow mine to be taken with no change in feelings toward the kingdom.  But I generally don't offer to tax it because I usually will forget, and also it costs a level of regional reaction, and who knows you might want to attack there later Wink

If they contact me and ask that it be left alone for a couple of turns, and in return they will double tax it (so it becomes neutral) by turn 4, I generally agree.  I've had it happen, though, that I have left a players town alone when asked and the played never taxed it as agreed, costing me several turns of income.

A single town may not seem like much, but an early town, counting over the course of just the first 10 turns of the game generates about 100,000 gold and 30,000 food so it is significant.

If a player asks that he be able to keep his town indefinitely in my region, I usually just laugh, unless he offers a town in his own region in return.  This trade is sometimes made in order to set up mercantile shipping in a neighboring regions sea, but there has to be a bunch of trust in that kind of relationship, and, not to mention, that kind of relationship is frowned upon due to the setting up of game-long alliances tends to detract from the game, and sets kind of a hoard "us and them" mentality in the game with the same "friends" setting up relationships in multiple games.

With regards to trading:  Many kingdoms start the game with an abundance of food an will trade on the open market (order number 200 I think) for gold at a 3:1 ratio.  The halfling kingdom may trade on the open market for a much better ratio of 3:2.  So, as the Halfling I will generally buy from players as much food as I can early in the game (sharing the benefit I get from selling it) and just sell whatever I don't use on the market.  The halfling is one of several kingdoms who also has the "trick of the trade" ability, which means that when you trade me 60,000 food and I give you 30,000 gold, I actually end up with 75,000 food (it appears magically, not from your stores), which I can sell for 3:2 and get 50,000 gold for it.  Netting you 10k (because if you sold on the open market, you'd only get 20k instead of 30k) and netting me 20k for the trade. Plus I just like making deals Wink
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Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Senior Tactician - 11-26-2020, 01:21 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 11-26-2020, 03:04 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by uncledarkseid - 11-27-2020, 11:47 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Agent Orange - 11-27-2020, 04:12 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 11-27-2020, 09:35 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Diamond Cutter - 11-27-2020, 10:58 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 11-27-2020, 11:54 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Diamond Cutter - 11-28-2020, 05:06 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 11-28-2020, 08:45 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 11-28-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 11-28-2020, 08:41 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 11-28-2020, 08:52 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 11-28-2020, 09:06 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-13-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 11-28-2020, 08:40 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 11-28-2020, 08:56 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 11-29-2020, 06:33 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 11-29-2020, 04:13 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Senior Tactician - 11-29-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 11-29-2020, 09:52 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 12-02-2020, 05:05 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-02-2020, 02:27 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 12-03-2020, 09:19 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-02-2020, 02:46 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-02-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-02-2020, 03:30 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-02-2020, 03:42 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-02-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-02-2020, 05:18 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Ry Vor - 12-03-2020, 05:25 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-13-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-13-2020, 03:10 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-13-2020, 03:47 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-13-2020, 04:12 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-13-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-20-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-20-2020, 08:23 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-20-2020, 10:30 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-21-2020, 07:01 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-21-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-21-2020, 05:56 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-21-2020, 07:21 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-29-2020, 05:11 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-13-2020, 05:12 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-13-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-13-2020, 07:41 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-20-2020, 08:04 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-20-2020, 10:33 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-21-2020, 04:38 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-21-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-21-2020, 07:04 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-24-2020, 06:07 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-25-2020, 08:10 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-20-2020, 10:34 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-21-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-22-2020, 06:25 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by unclemike - 12-29-2020, 01:50 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 12-29-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-29-2020, 02:22 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-29-2020, 02:50 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-30-2020, 07:06 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 12-30-2020, 10:46 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 12-31-2020, 07:52 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 01-01-2021, 04:09 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-01-2021, 03:00 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 01-02-2021, 01:01 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-01-2021, 04:31 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-01-2021, 09:55 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-01-2021, 10:13 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-01-2021, 10:39 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-01-2021, 10:49 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-01-2021, 11:05 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-01-2021, 10:19 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 01-02-2021, 12:51 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-01-2021, 11:41 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-02-2021, 02:37 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Loren - 01-05-2021, 06:38 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-09-2021, 03:20 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-10-2021, 07:11 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-10-2021, 07:10 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-10-2021, 10:34 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Eregnon - 01-09-2021, 03:00 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-09-2021, 03:13 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Eregnon - 01-09-2021, 08:20 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-09-2021, 05:08 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-09-2021, 05:23 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-09-2021, 09:44 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-10-2021, 07:05 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-10-2021, 11:13 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-11-2021, 12:00 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-11-2021, 12:19 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-11-2021, 12:28 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Dwellomir - 01-11-2021, 11:29 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-11-2021, 06:47 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-12-2021, 12:15 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 01-14-2021, 01:37 AM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-14-2021, 09:42 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Acererak - 01-30-2021, 03:50 PM
RE: Thanksgiving Steel - 5518 - by Pine Needle - 03-17-2021, 05:23 PM

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