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170/171 Question - HeadHoncho - 08-19-2013

Is it possible to 170 or 171 multiple times with the same group on the same turn? Or does only the first order actually resolve?


RE: 170/171 Question - Cipher - 08-19-2013

Why would you want to? There with another kingdom's group?


RE: 170/171 Question - HeadHoncho - 08-19-2013

I'm assuming -- perhaps erroneously -- that there is a random element to 170/171, just like with political emissaries. If that's the case, then multiple 171's (in particular) might be helpful.

If that's an incorrect assumption, then never mind. Smile


RE: 170/171 Question - Hawk_ - 08-20-2013

(08-19-2013, 09:18 PM)HeadHoncho Wrote: I'm assuming -- perhaps erroneously -- that there is a random element to 170/171, just like with political emissaries. If that's the case, then multiple 171's (in particular) might be helpful.

If that's an incorrect assumption, then never mind. Smile

171 is much stronger than 170. If you doubt your success rate I would try 171 and save an order.

Ideally a PC is neutral OR human controlled and you are friendly in the region.

Otherwise you need a pretty big group in most cases. (If you did not already know)

Best of luck,


RE: 170/171 Question - HeadHoncho - 08-20-2013

Thanks, I get that, I guess I'm more curious about whether there's a random element to 171, to see if multiple 171's would be beneficial (or even possible).

Separately, has anyone tried 171 in a Suspicious or Hostile region? Just wondering it it's worth bothering, even with a higher-level wizard.


RE: 170/171 Question - kik1661 - 08-20-2013

(08-20-2013, 03:06 PM)HeadHoncho Wrote: Thanks, I get that, I guess I'm more curious about whether there's a random element to 171, to see if multiple 171's would be beneficial (or even possible).

Separately, has anyone tried 171 in a Suspicious or Hostile region? Just wondering it it's worth bothering, even with a higher-level wizard.

Playing the DW in 100 I was able to 171 other kingdom's towns while Suspicious with a 25kish group, a marshal, and a p3. Looking back I went 3 for 5 on those 171 attempts.

I have no idea about multiple 171's though but seems easy enough to test.


RE: 170/171 Question - HeadHoncho - 08-20-2013

Thanks, that's a helpful data point (or five points, rather).

Anyone else? Smile


RE: 170/171 Question - Keeope - 08-21-2013

(08-20-2013, 05:56 PM)kik1661 Wrote:
(08-20-2013, 03:06 PM)HeadHoncho Wrote: Thanks, I get that, I guess I'm more curious about whether there's a random element to 171, to see if multiple 171's would be beneficial (or even possible).

Separately, has anyone tried 171 in a Suspicious or Hostile region? Just wondering it it's worth bothering, even with a higher-level wizard.

Playing the DW in 100 I was able to 171 other kingdom's towns while Suspicious with a 25kish group, a marshal, and a p3. Looking back I went 3 for 5 on those 171 attempts.

I have no idea about multiple 171's though but seems easy enough to test.

I would imagine you could cast multiple 171s vs any PC, provided you have enough wizards. Each wizard can only cast once per turn.