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Pairing Kingdoms and Regions
#11
(09-10-2019, 10:40 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: Ack!!

So we need the cube spreadsheet that was coming on about when I was out of there in corporate finance.

OK, so some kingdoms still need champions.  Take up the mantle!  If you dare.

In the Fall, we will want to see Champions of Kingdoms for the determination of who is invited to the 2019 Champion of Alamaze.  

To me, Maelstrom is the most difficult test.  So get yourself to top position in a kingdom.  Total points in Valhalla for a kingdom claims rights for Maelstrom for the kingdom when the time comes.

So if we have someone who picks the same kingdom in every game.  No names mentioned...  verses someone who set a record with the kingdom and only played it once, the one who goes for it all the time gets to play it in the championship if he has the most points?
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#12
(09-15-2019, 12:40 PM)Wookie Panz Wrote:
(09-10-2019, 10:40 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: Ack!!

So we need the cube spreadsheet that was coming on about when I was out of there in corporate finance.

OK, so some kingdoms still need champions.  Take up the mantle!  If you dare.

In the Fall, we will want to see Champions of Kingdoms for the determination of who is invited to the 2019 Champion of Alamaze.  

To me, Maelstrom is the most difficult test.  So get yourself to top position in a kingdom.  Total points in Valhalla for a kingdom claims rights for Maelstrom for the kingdom when the time comes.

So if we have someone who picks the same kingdom in every game.  No names mentioned...  verses someone who set a record with the kingdom and only played it once, the one who goes for it all the time gets to play it in the championship if he has the most points?
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No. It starts with champions. So if someone won with the kingdom, they are first. If not, then a second or third place finish. If no podium, then points. And yes, that would then favor someone who played it a lot.
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#13
(09-15-2019, 03:44 PM)VballMichael Wrote:
(09-15-2019, 12:40 PM)Wookie Panz Wrote:
(09-10-2019, 10:40 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: Ack!!

So we need the cube spreadsheet that was coming on about when I was out of there in corporate finance.

OK, so some kingdoms still need champions.  Take up the mantle!  If you dare.

In the Fall, we will want to see Champions of Kingdoms for the determination of who is invited to the 2019 Champion of Alamaze.  

To me, Maelstrom is the most difficult test.  So get yourself to top position in a kingdom.  Total points in Valhalla for a kingdom claims rights for Maelstrom for the kingdom when the time comes.

So if we have someone who picks the same kingdom in every game.  No names mentioned...  verses someone who set a record with the kingdom and only played it once, the one who goes for it all the time gets to play it in the championship if he has the most points?
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No. It starts with champions. So if someone won with the kingdom, they are first. If not, then a second or third place finish. If no podium, then points. And yes, that would then favor someone who played it a lot.

Thanks for the explanation sir
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#14
Assuming Rick isn't changing it. Total points in Valhalla sounds like you can earn a spot just by playing a lot. I hope we are still starting with winners.
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#15
(09-15-2019, 04:14 PM)VballMichael Wrote: Assuming Rick isn't changing it. Total points in Valhalla sounds like you can earn a spot just by playing a lot. I hope we are still starting with winners.

Playing a lot is something worth rewarding,  but I agree winning should trump points.   I would be for any winner in that position could claim the kingdom kind of first come for winners.  I would put other podium in the mix with top points.   The main reason I prefer any winner because although there are drop player type factors someone that really dominates aka Son of Conan RD ends up with less points than someone that squeeks a win out after 30 plus turns or maybe worse does not win at all but plays a full 40 turns and gets a bunch of points.
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#16
Yeah. I was in that game. I hate Son of Conan Smile

Anyway, I agree with you. Let's hope Rick is thinking along the same lines.
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#17
OK, sorry.  I actually am not partial to any particular method, but I (as purveyor) do appreciate players playing a lot.

If Valhalla podium positions for Maelstrom works, that would seem to be fine.  Meaning 1, 2, and 3 points for bronze, silver gold.  So two silvers in a kingdom would beat one gold.  If a tie, it goes to the highest medal (a gold and bronze would beat two silvers, etc.)

How's that?

Then we may have some positions not qualifying on those grounds, in which case highest points in a kingdom would claim their kingdom with no podium finish claimed, then the next highest points in a kingdom would get that kingdom.

I know that isn't crystal but I think you get it.  If player A has 40,000 Gnome points and Gnome is unclaimed and a position remains and that 40k is the highest for any single unclaimed (no podium) position, they would get it, then if there is still a position left and the next player has 34,000 points as unclaimed Dark Elves, that player can claim Dark Elves.
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#18
(09-15-2019, 09:02 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: OK, sorry.  I actually am not partial to any particular method, but I (as purveyor) do appreciate players playing a lot.

If Valhalla podium positions for Maelstrom works, that would seem to be fine.  Meaning 1, 2, and 3 points for bronze, silver gold.  So two silvers in a kingdom would beat one gold.  If a tie, it goes to the highest medal (a gold and bronze would beat two silvers, etc.)

How's that?

Then we may have some positions not qualifying on those grounds, in which case highest points in a kingdom would claim their kingdom with no podium finish claimed, then the next highest points in a kingdom would get that kingdom.

I know that isn't crystal but I think you get it.  If player A has 40,000 Gnome points and Gnome is unclaimed and a position remains and that 40k is the highest for any single unclaimed (no podium) position, they would get it, then if there is still a position left and the next player has 34,000 points as unclaimed Dark Elves, that player can claim Dark Elves.

Works for me
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#19
(09-15-2019, 09:02 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: OK, sorry.  I actually am not partial to any particular method, but I (as purveyor) do appreciate players playing a lot.

If Valhalla podium positions for Maelstrom works, that would seem to be fine.  Meaning 1, 2, and 3 points for bronze, silver gold.  So two silvers in a kingdom would beat one gold.  If a tie, it goes to the highest medal (a gold and bronze would beat two silvers, etc.)

How's that?

Then we may have some positions not qualifying on those grounds, in which case highest points in a kingdom would claim their kingdom with no podium finish claimed, then the next highest points in a kingdom would get that kingdom.

I know that isn't crystal but I think you get it.  If player A has 40,000 Gnome points and Gnome is unclaimed and a position remains and that 40k is the highest for any single unclaimed (no podium) position, they would get it, then if there is still a position left and the next player has 34,000 points as unclaimed Dark Elves, that player can claim Dark Elves.

For now, since there are only 21 people who have played the first 10 games of Maelstrom (and about 26 total who have played or are currently playing about 16 games), these champion systems seem to work fine.  But years from now, when a new player starts, they will have no chance, for years, or ever, to play in a championship.

How about a score (podium point) ratio of games played?  For instance, brekk has 5 points as AN and 3 as AM out of a total of only 4 games played (completed).  This is an impressive 2 points per game.

Dupont, on the other hand (I'm gonna bust his balls a bit because I know him from the old days  Angel  Has played all 10 of the completed maelstrom games and scored only 5 points. That's a ratio of .5.  In other words he is just an absolutely terrible player. Big Grin   (I would have picked on Airetar for his .16 ratio, but I don't know him so, dude you hang in there my bud, my ratio is zero and I've played dozens of games 25 years ago.)

To prevent a newb from winning one game and taking the top spot, you could have a system whereby you need "10 rated games" (or 5 maybe) to get your score.  You also need some sort of way for people who have had a boatload bad performance to catch up... perhaps by only counting the most recently completed X number of games?

I think it is cool to have people associated with the kingdom of their best performance, but I also don't think kingdoms are so different that a good player couldn't wield any one of them with at least some accuracy. (maybe AN and DE exceptions)
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#20
(09-23-2019, 05:28 PM)Senior Tactician Wrote:
(09-15-2019, 09:02 PM)Ry Vor Wrote: OK, sorry.  I actually am not partial to any particular method, but I (as purveyor) do appreciate players playing a lot.

If Valhalla podium positions for Maelstrom works, that would seem to be fine.  Meaning 1, 2, and 3 points for bronze, silver gold.  So two silvers in a kingdom would beat one gold.  If a tie, it goes to the highest medal (a gold and bronze would beat two silvers, etc.)

How's that?

Then we may have some positions not qualifying on those grounds, in which case highest points in a kingdom would claim their kingdom with no podium finish claimed, then the next highest points in a kingdom would get that kingdom.

I know that isn't crystal but I think you get it.  If player A has 40,000 Gnome points and Gnome is unclaimed and a position remains and that 40k is the highest for any single unclaimed (no podium) position, they would get it, then if there is still a position left and the next player has 34,000 points as unclaimed Dark Elves, that player can claim Dark Elves.

Dupont, on the other hand (I'm gonna bust his balls a bit because I know him from the old days  Angel  Has played all 10 of the completed maelstrom games and scored only 5 points. 
 
Some people like DuPont, because of his skill in this game are more readily a target over others.  Meaning don’t underestimate his winning % compared to someone else who may or may not have got their podium from walking into a kingdom that has already been fighting from very early on.   It’s a game with strategy I get that, but to some extent a players overall ability should be weighed.  I know you didn’t mean any slight towards himSmile  but I have great respect for the battles I have had with him.
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